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Rough Patch or Something More: How to Tell When Your Mental Health Needs More Than Practice

September 1, 2026
52 min

Dr. Karen Manotas, a child and adolescent psychiatrist, explains why sudden changes are easy to catch and gradual ones are not, and how to tell when practice is no longer enough on its own.

Show Notes & Chapters

How do you know if what you are feeling is a real problem or just a rough patch?

Dave and Luke sit down with Dr. Karen Manotas, a child and adolescent psychiatrist who left traditional practice to build school-based mental health care across Utah. Her work has taught her something most of us would rather not hear. Self-awareness has limits, and those limits show up exactly where we need them most.

Chapters

  • 00:00 Meet Dr. Karen Manotas. Dave and Luke introduce Dr. Manotas, who shares her story of leaving traditional psychiatry to build school-based mental health care across Utah.
  • 05:08 The Surprising Truth. The pressure carried by teachers and school staff, and the generational shifts in how kids handle stress.
  • 14:02 Spotting the Slow Signals. Why gradual changes are so much harder to notice than sudden ones, and the warning signs worth taking seriously.
  • 30:01 When to Seek Professional Help. How to ask for help, how to check in with a friend who is struggling, and the eleven year average gap between symptoms and treatment.
  • 41:37 What Is Mental Fitness? Dr. Manotas gives her own definition and points to where people can turn when the need arises.

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